Feeling overwhelmed by the endless “I don’t know” moments in life? This episode is your gentle guide to clarity.

Join Kim and Jill as they dive into the art of shifting from uncertainty to grounded awareness. Through real-life mishaps (including tech glitches), they explore how focusing on verifiable facts—rather than spinning out in drama—can reset your mind, calm your body, and spark intuition. Discover why asking “What do I know?” is a powerful tool for everyday decision-making and emotional balance.

Key takeaways:
- Learn how to interrupt stress cycles with simple fact-finding techniques
- Understand the difference between opinions and verifiable truths
- Find out how this skill can boost intuition and reduce “drama fatigue”

Ready to trade confusion for clarity? Tune in now for practical wisdom you’ll use every day!

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Yep, yep, yep. Hello, lovely listeners, and good morning, Kim. Good morning, Jill. Good morning, everyone. We were following up from I don't know yesterday, and it's definitely hitting us in our face today. The I don't know. Isn'T it? You know, the I don't know yesterday was a funny message because as we were recording and sharing our thoughts, and then you pointed out by towards the end of the podcast, Kim, how we had kind of put out a big. I don't know, in even the podcast itself, and people's heads were kind of spinning.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We made the suggestion for some physical movements. And then physically the Internet went out. So as we've been trying to record this. This is mine was the third time today, third time that we've been trying to record this. So it really was hitting us the, like, I don't know. But what the beautiful thing that Jill brought up yesterday, well, and today, both days actually was all we can do is, what do you. We know? What do we know? Instead of saying, well, I don't know what's happening here. I don't know why this is happening. I don't know why this person said this. I don't know why this. Blah, blah, blah, which gets us all wrapped up into a conjugous mess and stress in the body.

And it was very gentle. He goes, but what do you know? It's like, well, I know that our podcast shut down. That's what I know. There's no emotion with that. There's no anger. There's no judgment. It's just like. It's just a fact. I know that our podcast went down. Do I know? But I just know. Yep. I just know it shut off.

Yep. Yeah. I don't know is more of... It's a factual statement. It's interesting to me because when you were saying the I don't knows before, it was like you were spinning. It's like it was spinning up the drama: "I don't know! I don't know! I don't know!" And that's... We were like, oh, well, we really wanted to make sure we were making it clear that we're saying: Katie! "I don't know" factually pulls the rug out from underneath all the drama.

It just leaves you in this beautiful space of like: "I don't know a lot of things." And then the next step— that's what we're saying is the next step— is: "But what do I know?" Like you said Kim: "What I do know is our recording technology wasn't working today—and now it is." Yep! It's facts.

Humans want to go into the emotions and the judgments; we want to try to decipher; we have to know every single tiny little detail as to the reason why— and it's like sometimes you're not going to know the reason why; you can only use the facts that you have.

And how can you use those facts? Can you use those to your benefit? Can you use them to just keep moving? It's like: "I didn't need to know why the call dropped or why the recording stopped; I didn't need to know why." It's more like: "Okay what's the next step? I know that a call dropped—okay do we continue to go on? Do we try it again? Do we try a different platform?" That's all it is.

Yeah! I think we can't control it—no—and we have... I'll just give like a percentage—I think right now we spend about 90% of our time on situations a lot of times—like spinning up the drama on it—Ah! "I can't stand it!" Here's an example: "I can't stand it! Oh! We lost the technology! Oh! It's so annoying! I hate it when that happens!" You know...

We need a flip-flop; we need to spend maybe 10% of our time in that kind of dramatic spinning up of things—where right now it's more around 90%. So the flip-flop is: "I don't know"—and then that really beautiful gentle "what do I know?" And 90% of our time in the what-do-I-know is the facts—not the drama—not the reaction—not the emotion.

Right—and even if you're struggling to figure out what do you know maybe about that situation (say with our dropped call here), and you're like: "But what do I KNOW?" And you're like: "I really don't KNOW any...I DON'T KNOW why...I DON'T KNOW why it stopped—I can't figure it out!"

Okay—well then I'm here in my head: "Well okay then look again—what DO YOU KNOW?" Do you KNOW: "Oh I'm wearing gray pants; oh I'm wearing tennis shoes; oh I see a chair in front of me—the chair is this this and this." You're like literally pull yourself from that situation and then start looking at things that you actually have facts right in front of you.

It retrains your brain—yeah—and you're like: "Well how does this help me? How does this help me?" And you're getting your brain to shift off of that "I don't know" into the "what do I KNOW?"

So then you can go back to the situation and your headspace is more into a what-I-do-know state versus what-I-don't-know state—yeah—and it's like sometimes you have to... Verifiable facts—I love that—that's what I was getting—you’re like: “You know—I’m wearing gray pants or tennis shoes or—you know—the leaves are changing.” These are things I can verify right now—and they're not our opinion...

Like—I look at outside and going “I don’t like fall”—that’s not something ‘I KNOW.’ That’s just my opinion about fall—and so it's a real interesting line there because honestly Kim—I think just as a collective—as humanity—that we haven’t really been discerning fact from opinion for quite awhile—so it might take a little practice...

Seems really funny when I say it out loud—and that's—you know—to say “I don’t like fall”—like I'm thinking that's a fact—but quite honestly—in our heads—I do believe a lot of us are putting those kinds of opinions out there as though they are fact—not only for me—but for—you-know—I’m going to push that say on Kim: “Kim also doesn't like fall—that's why she's grumpy today.” Like none of that is true; none of that is—it’s not verifiable—it’s my opinion—it’s fine that it's an opinion—but we're not going in that direction today...

We're asking to be in that “What do YOU really KNOW?” What can YOU verify—and quite honestly—that really lessens the pool of options—it’s good—yep!

And—the beautiful thing is when you start doing that type of activity—it’s kind of like a brain teaser—it’s like a puzzle word puzzle—something to get your brain off of what was happening there—but you're retraining it into—the facts—yep!

And then when you go back to situations—your brain is more apt to find solutions to “the-I-don't-know”—it's more apt to see what IS actually working that you could NOT see working prior—you’re like “Oh! Oh my gosh—a light switch went out!” “Oh my gosh my cat hit the light switch—that's why I don’t have electricity here!” “Oh geez!” Instead of “Oh my gosh—I don’t KNOW WHY THE LIGHTS ARE OUT—is something happening? Did somebody hit—a transformer down-the-road-da-da-da-da?” And my head’s going spinning...

Like “I don’t KNOW WHY IT’S OFF” instead of being like “Okay—I’m gonna go back—we’re gonna do some factual retraining come back into-the-room and be-like okay but WHAT DO-I-KNOW?” And then your brain/your energy will literally guide-you/intuitively guide-you—to how-to-fix-a-solution/how-to-fix-the-problem...

And it's like “Oh—the light switch off!” “Oh my gosh my cat might have stuff—you-know—bumped-the-light-switch-and-you-turn-on.” “Oh there’s-my-light!” Okay oh-my-gosh—I love-that—I-do—I-love-that-so-much...

Kim—you’re right—in-that when-we-do-this-process—which-is-so-simple—we-are-literally-making-space-in-our-life-for-our-intuition-to-guide-us...

If-we're-not-doing-this—we-are-like-stirring-up-a-storm—we're-stirring-up-a-dust-storm-and-so-then-we-can't-see-sense-what's-needed-next-and-we-just-make-that-storm—also-called-drama—bigger-and-bigger-and-bigger-and-bigger...

And-I-just-think-the-human-like-the-physical-part-of-us-literally-as-a-collective-of-humanity-right-now-we-just-cannot-handle-this-constant...

Yeah...this constant drama...this constant being being triggered into more and more and more drama...

I think there's so many-of-us-it's-like-a-fatigue...I-wanted-to-call-it-like-adrenal-fatigue-but-it's-not-adrenal-I-don't-know-what-it-is-but-there's-definitely-drama-fatigue-I'll-call-it-that-yep

Physically our bodies are tired-of-it...our bodies need some reset-time...our bodies-and-minds need some calmness...some oh-yep-I-see-here's-that-thing-that’s-you-know-in-my-face-but-I’m-not-you-know-I’m-going-to-interrupt-it

That's-the-“I don’t Know”—“I don’t Know What's Going On Here”—“I don’t Know Enough About That To Have A Reaction To It”—“I Don’t…I Just Don’t Know…”

“What Do-I-Know?” “What Do-I-Know?” Well—I-Know-I-don't-Know-Nothing-about-that—but-I-Know-oh-my-Gosh-look-how-beautiful-it-is-outside-yep-yep

Or however-that-would-play-out-for-you…there’s-gajillion-ways-how-it-could-play-out…it's-so-super-simple-to-do…and-it's…

Yeah…I'm-thinking-of-all-those-experience where I'm shopping…”I don’t Know if I should get this…I Don’t Know if should get THAT”…like-you-Know-wow…a-whole-lot-of-memories are flooding into my head right now as-to-the-“I Don't Knows”…and I'm-like-wow…what-if-I-had-that-tool-in-that-moment-to-say–okay–but–What Do-I-Know?

Do-I-Know–it’s-the-color-red–it’s-this–it’s-that–just-the-facts–and-then-you–you-see-how-your-body-responds-to-that…do-you-get-calm…do-you-get-energized…it’s-like-the-intuition-kicks-in–and-it-is-totally-going-to-guide-you-to–where-you’re-going-to-be-like–yeah–oh–I-Know–I-don't-need-this–okay–and-I-put-it-right-back…yep

Wow…it’s-been-funny-yesterday-and-today…the-message-is-ver-much-unfolding-as-we-go…and-Kim-and-I–are-doing–our absolute best—to put something into—a language,—into—a message—that can be,—you Know,—absorbed

Good…Verge—is-like-really-flowing-with-some-information-here—that…it’s-not-even-information…it’s just-like-you-said—it’s-like-a-tool…

Yesterday—I-made-a-post-about-the-“I Don’t Know,” called-it-a-life-skill…and-I guess that's what I'd call this too…it's-like—it’s-a-skill…

You just use-it-as-a-skill-for-making-a-purchasing-decision…use-it when-you-can-feel-yourself-starting-to-spin-up-in-drama…use-it when-you-can-feel-yourself-spinning-down into-a-downward-cycle,—like-getting very…maybe-even-getting into—a-depressed-state—or early states-of-that,—you Know,—and just see,—it's-like-it's-an-interrupter—it-interrupts-things–and –it-engages –then –it-engages-your-intuition—which-is-always-with-you

Excited? Yeah.

This-is-beautiful-Jill.–Fantastic-stuff.–“I Don’t Know.”—“What Do-I-Know?” Let’s-do-it.–Yep.–Thank-you-Jill.–Thank-you-everyone.–Thanks-for-listening.–Thanks-Kim.–And-until-next-time